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Re: [email] progress on 1.0 release?

Dion Gillard-2
Is everyone ok with me doing a distribution for 1.0-RC5 and placing it
up for public consumption on people.apache.org/~dion ?
I'm currently going through
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/releases/prepare.html and making
sure it's all ready.

On 7/4/05, Simon Kitching <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Dion,
>
> How are things going with the 1.0 release of email?
>
> I see dumbster-1.6 is now on ibiblio/maven, and is compiled with java
> 1.3. And as far as I can see you've already addressed all of the issues
> raised during the review of RC4.
>
> Is there any other issue holding up RC5 that I could help with?
>
> Regards,
>
> Simon
>
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Re: [email] progress on 1.0 release?

Simon Kitching
On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 11:11 +1000, Dion Gillard wrote:
> Is everyone ok with me doing a distribution for 1.0-RC5 and placing it
> up for public consumption on people.apache.org/~dion ?
> I'm currently going through
> http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/releases/prepare.html and making
> sure it's all ready.

This thread:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=jakarta-commons-dev&m=111955501823405&w=
seems clear there is agreement for a release and no objections to you as
release manager. Go for it!

Cheers,

Simon


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Re: [email] progress on 1.0 release?

Emmanouil Batsis

Any plans on this? I'm sure many would like to have a "normal" release
in their project due to policies etc.

Thanks,

Manos

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Re: [email] progress on 1.0 release?

Dion Gillard-2
Yes. I have the source at a point where I'm happy to build an RC and
make it available, however I have very limited time at that moment, as
I'm spending a large amount of time with my father who is in critical
care in hospital.

Once I have the dist process automated with md5 and gpg signing, and a
spare hour or two, I'll cut the next RC and start the voting process.

Sorry for the delays.

On 7/22/05, Emmanouil Batsis <[hidden email]> wrote:

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> Any plans on this? I'm sure many would like to have a "normal" release
> in their project due to policies etc.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Manos
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Re: [email] progress on 1.0 release?

robert burrell donkin
hi dion

On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 21:13 +1000, Dion Gillard wrote:
> Yes. I have the source at a point where I'm happy to build an RC and
> make it available, however I have very limited time at that moment, as
> I'm spending a large amount of time with my father who is in critical
> care in hospital.

i'm really sorry to hear that. please don't feel under any pressure to
make time for ASF work at a time like this.

if you think that the code's fine, then i can easily cut the RC and so
on if that'd make things easier for you. let me know.

take care

- robert


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Re: [email] progress on 1.0 release?

Dion Gillard-2
On 7/24/05, robert burrell donkin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> hi dion
>
> On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 21:13 +1000, Dion Gillard wrote:
> > Yes. I have the source at a point where I'm happy to build an RC and
> > make it available, however I have very limited time at that moment, as
> > I'm spending a large amount of time with my father who is in critical
> > care in hospital.
>
> i'm really sorry to hear that. please don't feel under any pressure to
> make time for ASF work at a time like this.

;-)

I'm keeping really busy making sure my mum is ok at the moment.

> if you think that the code's fine, then i can easily cut the RC and so
> on if that'd make things easier for you. let me know.

That would be fantastic.

> take care

Thanks.
>
> - robert
>
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Re: [email] progress on 1.0 release?

robert burrell donkin
On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 08:04 +1000, Dion Gillard wrote:

> On 7/24/05, robert burrell donkin <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > hi dion
> >
> > On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 21:13 +1000, Dion Gillard wrote:
> > > Yes. I have the source at a point where I'm happy to build an RC and
> > > make it available, however I have very limited time at that moment, as
> > > I'm spending a large amount of time with my father who is in critical
> > > care in hospital.
> >
> > i'm really sorry to hear that. please don't feel under any pressure to
> > make time for ASF work at a time like this.
>
> ;-)
>
> I'm keeping really busy making sure my mum is ok at the moment.
>
> > if you think that the code's fine, then i can easily cut the RC and so
> > on if that'd make things easier for you. let me know.
>
> That would be fantastic.

i'll take a look at this today

- robert


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Re: [email] progress on 1.0 release?

Dion Gillard-2
In reply to this post by Dion Gillard-2
Hi, I filed an enhancement in Bugzilla today from Sigfried Goeschl
that would be great to get in before the 1.0 release.

It's a very minor API enhancement to make commons email more usable in
environments like fulcrum.

What do you think?

On 7/24/05, Dion Gillard <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 7/24/05, robert burrell donkin <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > hi dion
> >
> > On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 21:13 +1000, Dion Gillard wrote:
> > > Yes. I have the source at a point where I'm happy to build an RC and
> > > make it available, however I have very limited time at that moment, as
> > > I'm spending a large amount of time with my father who is in critical
> > > care in hospital.
> >
> > i'm really sorry to hear that. please don't feel under any pressure to
> > make time for ASF work at a time like this.
>
> ;-)
>
> I'm keeping really busy making sure my mum is ok at the moment.
>
> > if you think that the code's fine, then i can easily cut the RC and so
> > on if that'd make things easier for you. let me know.
>
> That would be fantastic.
>
> > take care
>
> Thanks.
> >
> > - robert
> >
> >
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RE: [email] progress on 1.0 release?

Poppe, Troy
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Is this enhancement any less involved than the request in bug #34056?  

I think 34056 is similar in that it involves some method signature changes, and
minor implementation changes (that only call new simple methods).  The end result
being that one can actually extend MultiPartEmail to provide for an S/MIME
implementation...

I'd like to request that if you're going to consider putting 35881 in to 1.0,
that maybe you could re-consider 34056 for 1.0?

Thanks.

Troy

-----Original Message-----
From: Dion Gillard [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:07 AM
To: Jakarta Commons Users List
Subject: Re: [email] progress on 1.0 release?


Hi, I filed an enhancement in Bugzilla today from Sigfried Goeschl that would be
great to get in before the 1.0 release.

It's a very minor API enhancement to make commons email more usable in
environments like fulcrum.

What do you think?

On 7/24/05, Dion Gillard <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 7/24/05, robert burrell donkin
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > hi dion
> >
> > On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 21:13 +1000, Dion Gillard wrote:
> > > Yes. I have the source at a point where I'm happy to build an RC
> > > and make it available, however I have very limited time at that
> > > moment, as I'm spending a large amount of time with my father who
> > > is in critical care in hospital.
> >
> > i'm really sorry to hear that. please don't feel under any pressure
> > to make time for ASF work at a time like this.
>
> ;-)
>
> I'm keeping really busy making sure my mum is ok at the moment.
>
> > if you think that the code's fine, then i can easily cut the RC and
> > so on if that'd make things easier for you. let me know.
>
> That would be fantastic.
>
> > take care
>
> Thanks.
> >
> > - robert
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
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RE: [email] progress on 1.0 release?

robert burrell donkin
it's rare that any initial release candidate survives scrutiny from the
commons release maestros so i'm sure that an RC6 will have to be rolled
anyway.

i'm just rolling the cuts for dion so i'd appreciate some guidance on
this from those who know the code better. opinions?

- robert

On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 08:00 -0400, Poppe, Troy wrote:

> Is this enhancement any less involved than the request in bug #34056?  
>
> I think 34056 is similar in that it involves some method signature changes, and
> minor implementation changes (that only call new simple methods).  The end result
> being that one can actually extend MultiPartEmail to provide for an S/MIME
> implementation...
>
> I'd like to request that if you're going to consider putting 35881 in to 1.0,
> that maybe you could re-consider 34056 for 1.0?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Troy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dion Gillard [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:07 AM
> To: Jakarta Commons Users List
> Subject: Re: [email] progress on 1.0 release?
>
>
> Hi, I filed an enhancement in Bugzilla today from Sigfried Goeschl that would be
> great to get in before the 1.0 release.
>
> It's a very minor API enhancement to make commons email more usable in
> environments like fulcrum.
>
> What do you think?
>
> On 7/24/05, Dion Gillard <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > On 7/24/05, robert burrell donkin
> > <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > hi dion
> > >
> > > On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 21:13 +1000, Dion Gillard wrote:
> > > > Yes. I have the source at a point where I'm happy to build an RC
> > > > and make it available, however I have very limited time at that
> > > > moment, as I'm spending a large amount of time with my father who
> > > > is in critical care in hospital.
> > >
> > > i'm really sorry to hear that. please don't feel under any pressure
> > > to make time for ASF work at a time like this.
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> > I'm keeping really busy making sure my mum is ok at the moment.
> >
> > > if you think that the code's fine, then i can easily cut the RC and
> > > so on if that'd make things easier for you. let me know.
> >
> > That would be fantastic.
> >
> > > take care
> >
> > Thanks.
> > >
> > > - robert
> > >
> > >
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> > reward will be that you will eat, but you will not live." - George
> > Bernard Shaw
> >
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RE: [email] progress on 1.0 release?

Simon Kitching
On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 22:25 +0100, robert burrell donkin wrote:
> it's rare that any initial release candidate survives scrutiny from the
> commons release maestros so i'm sure that an RC6 will have to be rolled
> anyway.
>
> i'm just rolling the cuts for dion so i'd appreciate some guidance on
> this from those who know the code better. opinions?

>From looking at the patch
  http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=35881
this is a fairly significant change to the email API.

I think this is definitely something that should be done by the main
product maintainer, not someone just volunteering to roll RCs.

I would suggest that either 1.0 go out without this change, or 1.0 be
delayed until the real email maintainer(s) have properly investigated
this, considered any backwards compatibility issues, etc.

And as Troy Poppe mentions, if 35881 is being considered for 1.0 then
perhaps 34056 should be as well.

Regards,

Simon



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RE: [email] progress on 1.0 release?

robert burrell donkin
On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 16:34 +1200, Simon Kitching wrote:

> On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 22:25 +0100, robert burrell donkin wrote:
> > it's rare that any initial release candidate survives scrutiny from the
> > commons release maestros so i'm sure that an RC6 will have to be rolled
> > anyway.
> >
> > i'm just rolling the cuts for dion so i'd appreciate some guidance on
> > this from those who know the code better. opinions?
>
> >From looking at the patch
>   http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=35881
> this is a fairly significant change to the email API.
>
> I think this is definitely something that should be done by the main
> product maintainer, not someone just volunteering to roll RCs.

+1

> I would suggest that either 1.0 go out without this change, or 1.0 be
> delayed until the real email maintainer(s) have properly investigated
> this, considered any backwards compatibility issues, etc.

i'm willing to let this one ride for a little while, i think. the
release candidate's only just out so there's no real reason why a
decision needs to be taken just yet.

> And as Troy Poppe mentions, if 35881 is being considered for 1.0 then
> perhaps 34056 should be as well.

+1

- robert


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Re: [email] progress on 1.0 release?

Eric Pugh-2
First off, I'll start with a mea culpa.  As one of the people who  
picked up commons-email and moved it from commons-sandbox into  
commons proper, and a committer on the Turbine project where commons-
email came from, I should have done a better job.  My only excuse/
reason was some personal issues came up during my attempt to release  
1.0 that pretty much shut down all my activity on OSS stuff.

However, at this point, I have "cleared the decks", and am ready to  
get back into being active on the Jakarta Commons community.   I'll  
take a look at the updated list of changes, including the ones that  
Siegfried sent me directly in an attempt to get some movement done!

IIRC, my big difficulty a couple months ago when trying to do the  
release was I just switched to OSX, and didn't get the whole key  
signing thing...   I am at OSCON this week, if any other Commons  
committers are there I bet we could do a bit of pair programming and  
knock out updated RC and 1.0 this week...

Being as the code has sat for a while since the last 1.0 vote thread  
passed months ago, I would do another RC first.

Eric


On Jul 28, 2005, at 11:01 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote:

> On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 16:34 +1200, Simon Kitching wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 22:25 +0100, robert burrell donkin wrote:
>>
>>> it's rare that any initial release candidate survives scrutiny  
>>> from the
>>> commons release maestros so i'm sure that an RC6 will have to be  
>>> rolled
>>> anyway.
>>>
>>> i'm just rolling the cuts for dion so i'd appreciate some  
>>> guidance on
>>> this from those who know the code better. opinions?
>>>
>>
>>
>>> From looking at the patch
>>>
>>   http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=35881
>> this is a fairly significant change to the email API.
>>
>> I think this is definitely something that should be done by the main
>> product maintainer, not someone just volunteering to roll RCs.
>>
>
> +1
>
>
>> I would suggest that either 1.0 go out without this change, or 1.0 be
>> delayed until the real email maintainer(s) have properly investigated
>> this, considered any backwards compatibility issues, etc.
>>
>
> i'm willing to let this one ride for a little while, i think. the
> release candidate's only just out so there's no real reason why a
> decision needs to be taken just yet.
>
>
>> And as Troy Poppe mentions, if 35881 is being considered for 1.0 then
>> perhaps 34056 should be as well.
>>
>
> +1
>
> - robert
>
>
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Re: [email] progress on 1.0 release?

robert burrell donkin
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 12:14 -0700, Eric Pugh wrote:

> First off, I'll start with a mea culpa.  As one of the people who  
> picked up commons-email and moved it from commons-sandbox into  
> commons proper, and a committer on the Turbine project where commons-
> email came from, I should have done a better job.  My only excuse/
> reason was some personal issues came up during my attempt to release  
> 1.0 that pretty much shut down all my activity on OSS stuff.
>
> However, at this point, I have "cleared the decks", and am ready to  
> get back into being active on the Jakarta Commons community.   I'll  
> take a look at the updated list of changes, including the ones that  
> Siegfried sent me directly in an attempt to get some movement done!

cool

> IIRC, my big difficulty a couple months ago when trying to do the  
> release was I just switched to OSX, and didn't get the whole key  
> signing thing...  

i've been working on key signing documents for the foundation site and
i've used macOSX since the public beta. so, if you don't grok keys yet,
i'd be glad to help.

> I am at OSCON this week, if any other Commons  
> committers are there I bet we could do a bit of pair programming and  
> knock out updated RC and 1.0 this week...

i'm in sunny yorkshire (so that rules me out) but +1 to the concept

> Being as the code has sat for a while since the last 1.0 vote thread  
> passed months ago, I would do another RC first.

the good news is that we already have a recent RC:
http://people.apache.org/~rdonkin/commons-email/

i rolled the release as a stand in for dion (who has been going through
some difficult times lately...)

AIUI the major question remaining is which of the proposed significant
additions to the API should be added before the 1.0. IIRC they are
listed in bugzilla and dion is in favour of one of them. (please check
the recent emails for details).

- robert


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Re: [email] progress on 1.0 release?

Henning Schmiedehausen
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Simon Kitching <[hidden email]> writes:

>And as Troy Poppe mentions, if 35881 is being considered for 1.0 then
>perhaps 34056 should be as well.

For what it is worth, I'd -1 the patch by Troy until he fixed up the

[...]
        try {
            if (StringUtils.isNotEmpty(charset))
            {
//                BROKEN!
//                getPrimaryBodyPart().setText(msg, charset);
                getPrimaryBodyPart().setText(msg);
            }
            else
            {
                getPrimaryBodyPart().setText(msg);
            }
[...]

conditional in MultiPartEmail that his patch introduces. Either get
rid of the conditional or fix up setText(msg, charset). But that hurts
my eyes.

        Regards
                Henning

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Re: [email] progress on 1.0 release?

Henning Schmiedehausen
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robert burrell donkin <[hidden email]> writes:

One minor nit: Can we move the devel/release discussion back to
commons-dev? I'm not sure if the users are that interested in it.

        Regards
                Henning

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