[VOTE][LAZY] Migrate Apache Commons IO to git

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[VOTE][LAZY] Migrate Apache Commons IO to git

Kristian Rosenvold
Hello,

I'd like to call a VOTE by LAZY
consensus for migrating the Apache Commons IO component to git. Please
object to this vote if you see a problem with this. Otherwise this vote
will be considered as passed after 72 hours from now (10th June 2016, 09:00
CET)

Thank you,
Kristian
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Re: [VOTE][LAZY] Migrate Apache Commons IO to git

jochen-2
+1 (go for it)


On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Kristian Rosenvold
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'd like to call a VOTE by LAZY
> consensus for migrating the Apache Commons IO component to git. Please
> object to this vote if you see a problem with this. Otherwise this vote
> will be considered as passed after 72 hours from now (10th June 2016, 09:00
> CET)
>
> Thank you,
> Kristian



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Re: [VOTE][LAZY] Migrate Apache Commons IO to git

garydgregory
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+1

Gary

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 11:37 PM, Kristian Rosenvold <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'd like to call a VOTE by LAZY
> consensus for migrating the Apache Commons IO component to git. Please
> object to this vote if you see a problem with this. Otherwise this vote
> will be considered as passed after 72 hours from now (10th June 2016, 09:00
> CET)
>
> Thank you,
> Kristian
>



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Re: [VOTE][LAZY] Migrate Apache Commons IO to git

Sergio Fernández
+1

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Gary Gregory <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> +1
>
> Gary
>
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 11:37 PM, Kristian Rosenvold <[hidden email]
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'd like to call a VOTE by LAZY
> > consensus for migrating the Apache Commons IO component to git. Please
> > object to this vote if you see a problem with this. Otherwise this vote
> > will be considered as passed after 72 hours from now (10th June 2016,
> 09:00
> > CET)
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Kristian
> >
>
>
>
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Re: [VOTE][LAZY] Migrate Apache Commons IO to git

James Carman
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+1

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 2:37 AM Kristian Rosenvold <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'd like to call a VOTE by LAZY
> consensus for migrating the Apache Commons IO component to git. Please
> object to this vote if you see a problem with this. Otherwise this vote
> will be considered as passed after 72 hours from now (10th June 2016, 09:00
> CET)
>
> Thank you,
> Kristian
>
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Re: [VOTE][LAZY] Migrate Apache Commons IO to git

Kristian Rosenvold-2
This vote passes by lazy consensus.

The following people have voted +1:

- Jochen Wiedmann
- Sergio Fernández
- Gary Gregory
- James Carman

I'll take care of the migration and keep the ML updated about the progress.

Regards,
Kristian (Master of ^C^V)

2016-06-07 12:46 GMT+02:00 James Carman <[hidden email]>:

> +1
>
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 2:37 AM Kristian Rosenvold <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'd like to call a VOTE by LAZY
>> consensus for migrating the Apache Commons IO component to git. Please
>> object to this vote if you see a problem with this. Otherwise this vote
>> will be considered as passed after 72 hours from now (10th June 2016, 09:00
>> CET)
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Kristian
>>

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Re: [VOTE][LAZY] Migrate Apache Commons IO to git

jochen-2
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Kristian Rosenvold
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> This vote passes by lazy consensus.

So, again: Who's next?



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Re: [VOTE][LAZY] Migrate Apache Commons IO to git

Benedikt Ritter-4
Jochen Wiedmann <[hidden email]> schrieb am Fr., 10. Juni 2016
um 14:14 Uhr:

> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Kristian Rosenvold
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > This vote passes by lazy consensus.
>
> So, again: Who's next?
>

Pick one you like. How about FileUpload?


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Re: [VOTE][LAZY] Migrate Apache Commons IO to git

James Carman
Is anyone opposed at this time to moving everything at once?

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 8:56 AM Benedikt Ritter <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Jochen Wiedmann <[hidden email]> schrieb am Fr., 10. Juni 2016
> um 14:14 Uhr:
>
> > On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Kristian Rosenvold
> > <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > > This vote passes by lazy consensus.
> >
> > So, again: Who's next?
> >
>
> Pick one you like. How about FileUpload?
>
>
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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Re: [VOTE][LAZY] Migrate Apache Commons IO to git

sebb-2-2
Yes

On 10 June 2016 at 13:57, James Carman <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Is anyone opposed at this time to moving everything at once?
>
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 8:56 AM Benedikt Ritter <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Jochen Wiedmann <[hidden email]> schrieb am Fr., 10. Juni 2016
>> um 14:14 Uhr:
>>
>> > On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Kristian Rosenvold
>> > <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > This vote passes by lazy consensus.
>> >
>> > So, again: Who's next?
>> >
>>
>> Pick one you like. How about FileUpload?
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > The next time you hear: "Don't reinvent the wheel!"
>> >
>> >
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Re: [VOTE][LAZY] Migrate Apache Commons IO to git

James Carman
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Perhaps I should re-phrase (may not make a difference, but it could).  Can
we just say that any component that wishes to migrate can feel free to do
so at this time?  We don't need a VOTE or anything.  If someone gets the
cycles and inspiration to do so, they can feel free to go right ahead.
That's what I mean.  I don't mean force everyone to move right now.

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 8:57 AM James Carman <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Is anyone opposed at this time to moving everything at once?
>
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 8:56 AM Benedikt Ritter <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> Jochen Wiedmann <[hidden email]> schrieb am Fr., 10. Juni 2016
>> um 14:14 Uhr:
>>
>> > On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Kristian Rosenvold
>> > <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > This vote passes by lazy consensus.
>> >
>> > So, again: Who's next?
>> >
>>
>> Pick one you like. How about FileUpload?
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > The next time you hear: "Don't reinvent the wheel!"
>> >
>> >
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Re: [VOTE][LAZY] Migrate Apache Commons IO to git

jochen-2
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On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Benedikt Ritter <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Jochen Wiedmann <[hidden email]> schrieb am Fr., 10. Juni 2016
> um 14:14 Uhr:
>
>> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Kristian Rosenvold
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> > This vote passes by lazy consensus.
>>
>> So, again: Who's next?
>>
>
> Pick one you like. How about FileUpload?

Hooray for my good ole FileUpload!



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Re: [VOTE][LAZY] Migrate Apache Commons IO to git

garydgregory
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On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 7:14 AM, James Carman <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Perhaps I should re-phrase (may not make a difference, but it could).  Can
> we just say that any component that wishes to migrate can feel free to do
> so at this time?  We don't need a VOTE or anything.  If someone gets the
> cycles and inspiration to do so, they can feel free to go right ahead.
> That's what I mean.  I don't mean force everyone to move right now.
>

I think mailing the list for each component is nice. It seems polite, less
overbearing and less brute-force; IOW more community oriented. The VOTE is
nice because it gives folks a few days to voice and record their objection
(I do not plan on objecting ;-). You could [POLL] the list with a "what
components should move" message and then have a single [VOTE].

This is an important change in workflow and I am not sure our release
instruction page is 100% up to date for Git, that needs to happen ASAP,
perhaps _before_ more polling, voting, and migrations take place.

Also as an RM, you'll still need to deal with SVN (the site), so this is
not a panacea for whatever ill some folks have toward SVN.

Gary


>
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 8:57 AM James Carman <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > Is anyone opposed at this time to moving everything at once?
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 8:56 AM Benedikt Ritter <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Jochen Wiedmann <[hidden email]> schrieb am Fr., 10. Juni
> 2016
> >> um 14:14 Uhr:
> >>
> >> > On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Kristian Rosenvold
> >> > <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > This vote passes by lazy consensus.
> >> >
> >> > So, again: Who's next?
> >> >
> >>
> >> Pick one you like. How about FileUpload?
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > The next time you hear: "Don't reinvent the wheel!"
> >> >
> >> >
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Re: [VOTE][LAZY] Migrate Apache Commons IO to git

James Carman
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 1:05 PM Gary Gregory <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> I think mailing the list for each component is nice. It seems polite, less
> overbearing and less brute-force; IOW more community oriented. The VOTE is
> nice because it gives folks a few days to voice and record their objection
> (I do not plan on objecting ;-). You could [POLL] the list with a "what
> components should move" message and then have a single [VOTE].
>
>
If none of us object to the components moving if they see fit, then let's
just say that and avoid the formality.  Sure, a nice heads-up from the
component saying "foo is getting ready to move to Git", but they shouldn't
really need to ask permission if we're all okay with it.


> This is an important change in workflow and I am not sure our release
> instruction page is 100% up to date for Git, that needs to happen ASAP,
> perhaps _before_ more polling, voting, and migrations take place.
>
>
If it was good enough for all that have moved thus far, then it's good
enough for the future ones, I'd think.


> Also as an RM, you'll still need to deal with SVN (the site), so this is
> not a panacea for whatever ill some folks have toward SVN.
>
>
Yep, understood.
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Re: [VOTE][LAZY] Migrate Apache Commons IO to git

garydgregory
On Jun 10, 2016 10:23 AM, "James Carman" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 1:05 PM Gary Gregory <[hidden email]>
wrote:
>
> >
> > I think mailing the list for each component is nice. It seems polite,
less
> > overbearing and less brute-force; IOW more community oriented. The VOTE
is
> > nice because it gives folks a few days to voice and record their
objection
> > (I do not plan on objecting ;-). You could [POLL] the list with a "what
> > components should move" message and then have a single [VOTE].
> >
> >
> If none of us object to the components moving if they see fit, then let's
> just say that and avoid the formality.  Sure, a nice heads-up from the
> component saying "foo is getting ready to move to Git", but they shouldn't
> really need to ask permission if we're all okay with it.

I'm sorry to go on about this because I do see Commons as a better place
with Git but...

> they shouldn't
> really need to ask permission if we're > all okay with it.

Isn't a VOTE, lazy perhaps or POLL the simplest way to find out "if we're
all OK with it"? A LAZY VOTE seems like right tool to me.

Gary

>
>
> > This is an important change in workflow and I am not sure our release
> > instruction page is 100% up to date for Git, that needs to happen ASAP,
> > perhaps _before_ more polling, voting, and migrations take place.
> >
> >
> If it was good enough for all that have moved thus far, then it's good
> enough for the future ones, I'd think.
>
>
> > Also as an RM, you'll still need to deal with SVN (the site), so this is
> > not a panacea for whatever ill some folks have toward SVN.
> >
> >
> Yep, understood.